Feeling Guilty

I had a serious lapse in judgement and tried to create a video, with Sora, of this girl I used to have a crush on, burping. For reference, I have a girlfriend that I love very much which is why I feel so guilty about it, not to mention I don’t think creating AI videos of people without their consent is morally correct. The only reason I wanted to make the video is because she is (in my opinion) the main reason why I even have the fetish (she used to burp a lot), and I always wanted to have a video of her burping. Thankfully it wouldn’t create the video due to Sora’s policy around photo-realistic people, but I still just feel really shitty about it.

I feel like I needed to tell someone about it, which is why I’m posting it here.

What do you guys think I should do?

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You realized it was ethically dubious and don’t have the video. That’s enough. Don’t worry about it.

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I mean, you’re recognizing it was wrong, that’s the first, and most important, step. I don’t think you should like do anything at all. Perhaps what you need next time is to think a little less with the wrong head and don’t do anything that you might regret later, specially when it involves people important to you. Just breathe air, calm down a little and move on to the next thing

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I won’t lie and say I haven’t fallen into the same trap. That type of shit is overall not worth it. Glad you recognized the error but don’t get it twisted that you will falter again in the future when the tech is more advanced and less restrictive. Use your best judgment to make the right decision in the moment. Morally, it’s wrong to make deepfakes of anyone, but more so if they’re not a public figure. Stay strong!

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oh god. I already hate ai with every bone in my body, but i cannot IMAGINE using it to make fetish content ala burps/farts. god, why did that never cross my mind? i pray to god i never come across any shit like that

anyways, glad you made the right choice and you can continue on with a clean conscience.

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This is the problem with AI in general. It’s good that Sora blocked you from creating it, but having the ability to make a pornographic video about someone who is a stranger to you now without her knowledge is really dangerous. My advice would be to just stop using AI all together because you will probably be tempted to do it again.

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This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but in cases like this I think it’s useful to consider what the actual practical impact of something is. For example if you steal someone’s wallet, then it’s right to feel guilty because you can directly trace your action back to someone else’s suffering when they discover they’ve lost their money. If you generate a video though, what exactly justifies the guilt?

How about no longer knowing what is true? What if someone made an AI video of me doing or saying something I didn’t and uploaded it for all to see? Even if it’s meant for private use, it still went through the company’s servers. Imagination exists only in one’s own head, but a video is imagination made into actual image, so its creation feels morally wrong to me.

You could ask the same question about photoshop. It’s been possible for years now to make fake photos of people, but in practice it’s rarely a problem for anyone. And if someone did photoshop a picture of you doing something weird, you’d just tell everyone it’s photoshopped and they’d believe you.

It would be possible to hurt someone via AI videos, but the creation of the video in the first place isn’t the point at which someone’s hurt. That’s essentially my reasoning.

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The impact is only on him if he doesn’t share it. But that’s not nothing imo. Making an AI representation of one of my friends or exes for example would make me feel pretty weird as well. It would be “bad for me” and that’s enough reason not to do it. Idk. Maybe that’s just the vague remnants of my Catholic guilt lol.

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I’m not sure it’s the same. Creating a convincing Photoshop requires considerably more skill and time than AI video generation. This means that the potential volume of AI generated content, and those who endeavor to create it, can be vast. I also have the feeling that video (and the accompanying audio) has more verisimilitude compared to a still image, and it is only going to increase as more money and research is devoted to AI media generation.

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In this case though, we’re talking about using photoshopped images that will be used for a sexual purpose. I think if the person in question were to find out about a stranger photoshopping them into a sexual situation unprompted, they would be understandably mortified. That’s a horrific violation of that person’s privacy and morally indefensible. They did not consent to that.

Creating a video is 10000% worse because now you’re putting that person in a sexual scene that they had no involvement in. What if they have trauma surrounding sexual assault or revenge porn? That’s the stuff that can happen if this stuff doesn’t get checked.

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If you haven’t already, I think you should tell your girlfriend about this incident. I think the guilt is a lot in the deception and you’ll only be able to move on when you’ve cleared that up and had an honest conversation

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What deception?

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the deception of going behind his girlfriend’s back to try to create a video of an old love interest. It may not be a direct lie but it’s a secret that should be revealed so they can have an honest and open discussion about the situation and OP’s feelings

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I hardly see how that’s deception. Sounds like thoughtcrime. I think it’s perfectly normal to occasionally think of people we were previously attracted to and it doesn’t mean anything about the status of the relationship you’re in.

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Maybe deception was the wrong word, but I do think there is a big difference between thinking of someone you were into vs getting off to someone you were into and an even bigger step to virtually resurrecting the corpse of their memory to get you off. But the only relief from guilt is to be open about what’s causing the guilt. The guilt itself is what shows there is something that needs to be admitted.

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Just to update everyone, I ended up talking to my girlfriend about it, and while she was obviously upset, and rightfully so, she appreciated my honesty and forgave me.

She asked me to unfollow the girl on Instagram, which is the least I could do and she said that while she still trusts me overall, it’s a little less than what it was before. I am now working to gain that trust back.

I appreciate everyone’s responses.

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I agree with this sentiment. I don’t understand what you would feel guilty about. It becomes wrong if you share it, because that is damaging to the person. But if you have it on your own computer, in your own space, and don’t share it with others, then how is it any different from making an erotic story in a journal involving the person. Or drawing erotic art of the person in a private diary.

What is going to get really funky is when AI gets a little better, and you are not able to tell the difference between a real model and a model that doesn’t exist.

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You don’t think making AI videos of strangers for sexual purposes is bad? Lord help us, man. lol We might be cooked

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