Eructophilia Literature and the Cliches That Plague It

Firstly, this is NOT to diss anyone on here. I’ve felt like this since I first discovered the forum and am finally sharing my opinions.

Let’s be frank; straight guys on here can have a blast. Even though the female fictional department is skimpy compared to the old forum, at the time of this post there’s a total of 12 fictional stories (not including my contributions). And those are just the fictional stories! Going over to the male department reveals a total of 11 stories (not including mine). However, these stories comprise approximately 70-80% of the entire male story section. This in and of itself isn’t that bad; more guys have the fetish, so it makes sense.

My main problem comes with the stories themselves. They tend to follow the same pattern; guy with the secret fetish notices hot girl burping, figures out a way to get close to hear, succeeds, girl burps more once he says “I don’t mind,” fall in love, confesses the fetish, to which the girl is either surprised or relived (cause they’re ALWAYS GASSY), bla bla bla. Any friends in the story are always encouragingthe two to get together or serving solely as more kink fuel. (There was one story I remember where the so-called friend was actually trying to break them up so she could cheat with him.) Now hear me out. I have nothing against these kinds of stories themselves. It’s when they monopolize most of the content within this forum (and especially the old one) that I start wondering. What if the stories didn’t feature a love interest?
What if the characters… Had other roles bedsides attending scool and falling in love?
What if the girl wasn’t a tomboy or ridiculously attractive?
What if the friends… Didn’t push them into a relationship?
What if people had lives… Outside of school?
What if… The protagonist didn’t appear to be the same characters over and over?

Quite frankly, I’m aware most the people on here writing fiction are male, but that isn’t an excuse to settle for mediocre. Let’s face it; hopefully I’m not the only one who wants a little variety in the fiction department for both genders (if you must ask, I’m a girl, and no, I’m not bi), and I think having a few of the above thoughs in mind can help enrich the fictional stories in our forum. :blush:

Before I leave, I want to add that not EVERY SINGLE story is like the formula I described above. There are some great stories out there, and even some that do follow the formula do it in such a way where it doesn’t feel stale.

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The male protagonist is always a horny teenager trying to fulfill his masturbation quota. Why can’t the protagonist be something else for a change?

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Thinking about it, I never realized just how many stories go through this pattern. Thank you for pointing this out.

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I’ve noticed it for a while. There was another forum post earlier that was a bit like this one.

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Why was this so funny? XD

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No probs mate! I’m not shaming anyone who writes stories like this, I’m just saying we need a bit of variety. :wink:

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It’s the cold, hard truth.

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Another funny thing, I posted the same poll in the female and male section, and the female section has more then twice as many votes. XD Kind of funny, actually. (Also I didn’t expect anyone to vote so soon. :sweat_smile:)

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Greetings GustyTraveler,

I find that this is more an issue of feedback systems in kink environments than anything else. As for the pattern.

1.) Lets start with the primary protagonist is some guy with a closeted belch fetish notices a hot girl burping. You noted that more guys participate in the fetish on this site. Humans have a characteristic of more easily relating to people similar to themselves. So if your protagonist shares traits with your target audience, or how your target audience wants to perceive themselves, it will decrease the energy of activation needed to participate and thus increase the chances of you getting positive feedback as a creator. People on average will create more content that they get positive feedback for.

2.) Narrative arc of some variant of “I don’t mind”, confessing, etc. Is an example of a more targeted format of power fantasy. People on average are closeted about their experience, especially in kinky areas. The juxtaposed energies of people wanting more positive stimulus in their life in this case expressed through fulfillment of the kink paired with a feeling of inability to make that the case on average generates fertile ground for positive response to protagonist inserts that somehow take that step again creating more positive feedback for the creation making it more likely that similar content will be replicated.

3.) I actually don’t have clarity around the friend dynamics bit that comes from anything other than intuition, as such I’ll leave this section of your question to someone more educated in that field.

As for the specific smaller questions:

4.) People default to school settings in many forms of media whether it be wizards, magical creatures, dystopian societies, or just about anything else. Since school is a mandatory part of the majority of people who can access the internet’s lives, it makes it highly likely that a randomly selected reader has some experience with school. This decreases the energy of activation necessary for the suspension of disbelief because more people can relate to having witnessed people learning and forming bonds during development than the percent of the population that can relate to people sculpting marble, or promoting polymerase chain reaction to increase samples of DNA, or giving therapeutic support to someone at the loss of the elephant they bonded with after losing their eyesight. All of these narratives require additional work out of the reader who is unlikely to have experienced these things. More work from the reader means a lower percent of readers will engage as deeply with the story as people’s lives are too much work already.

5.) Tomboys and people who are ridiculously attractive in traditional heteronormative dynamics as primary romantic agents pops up for a few reasons. I think the Tomboy perspective is largely a result of dominant western industrial society stigmatizing women belching as a detractor from womanhood. The majority of humans respond pretty strongly to stigma as a form of social conditioning, and as a result most authors who are men will have their primary exposure to women actually belching in real life be in situations with Tomboys. People generally write from enhanced versions of their own experience, so if this is the most likely vector for witnessing eruptions in real life, they’re likely to repeat these memes in the media they create. As for ridiculously attractive, people’s sexualities often tie into what they find attractive. People creating kink content will often integrate their views of beauty in senses beyond just the kink into their creations. Since there are societal norms around what beauty is, characters that conform to those norms are accessible to a higher percent of the population and thus create that positive feedback loop for content creators.

6.) I still really have no idea with the friends thing.

7.) People having lives outside of school increases the potential variance from standardly accessible experience. This element of media particularly infuriates me. Even in situations where people are given an access point like school to appeal to the majority of the population, additional elements are often interpreted as diluting their experience. For much of the population it would be frustrating to read an article about how to grow oyster mushrooms as food only to find that 70% of the article is covering the philosophy of fungal evolution in relation to mycorrhizal structures and decomposers. They do not care about the philosophy, they care about getting to eat the mushroom with as little effort as possible. The same principle applies in kink content. Anything that isn’t the base level accessible kink content decreases the amount of people who will be interested in consuming the media. I noticed this substantially with my own work. Early in my process I replicated a lot of the archetypes and memes that I witnessed in my kink communities including some of these trends. Additionally pulling on the time honored archetype emulation work of fanart/fiction. These got substantial engagement and interaction that generates the warm fuzzy feelings of someone giving positive feedback. Over time I felt like I wanted to minimize how I contributed to oppressive systems including objectification and the normalization of oppressive control dynamics in content I created. As I engaged in this process of changing my output I had a substantial drop in feedback of all kinds (Going from roughly 30 comments of interaction per piece to 1-2) Adding additional content to make a character less one dimensional actively sabotages one’s ability to connect with a broad audience. The clear archetypical one dimensionality is viewed as a value add, not a value detractor by a large enough audience that it’s generally counterproductive if you want to interact with the community.

Those are some thoughts on your notes about the cliches in the community, why they’re common, and the specific structures in place that make them likely to remain common in the current attention economy. Then again this comes from my biased perspective where my most recent written piece that integrates sensual belching as an element also contains conflict resolution structures in group decision making, high density object physics, and analysis of fictional social hierarchies as ways to highlight different relationships with individual and communal status seeking behaviors.

–Isicera

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I didn’t read all of this but your insight is actually extraordinarily great. I like how you apply psychological ideas in your points giving you a backbone of logic behind the subject.

It really needs a tl;dr though, because I skipped point 5 and beyond.

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TL;DR version.

The simplest version of things appeals to the broadest audience.
Because of this, simple versions of media get more positive feedback.
Humans like positive feedback
When humans get positive feedback they’ll do more of what got that feedback for.
Because of this humans will make content that is likely to generate the most positive feedback by creating things that are simple and broadly accessible.

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Kind of like minmaxing in a videogame for the most results.

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Hi Isicera,

Firstly, thank you for your insightful comment (and the TLDR). You brought up a good number of points, so I’ll try to address them here.

  1. The friendship piece: This stems from my strong and unfulfilled desire to have strong friendships. The ability to release gas freely in my mind indicates a deep level of trust. Henceforth, a lot of my stories contain one of the things I really really want.

  2. Appealling to the broader audience: Unfortunately I’ve also noticed the trend you mentioned with your stories; the more complex they are, the less people will review them, which is infuriating cause personally those are my favorites. (By the way, if you still have some of your stories I’d love to read them.) But then this begs the bigger question: what is the point of writing the stories? Is it to give yourself content you want to read? Is it to have a way of interacting with the community? Or is it a mixture of both? I do enjoy getting hearts and comments on my stories, but what I really like about them is the fact that it’s content that I like. I could easily write a cliche story and get a lot of likes, but if I did that, I would no longer be writing from the heart; I’d be writing to appeal to the masses, which in turn would mean selling out.

  3. School: This one I can agree on, except I was homeschooled and therefore have a hard time relating to school-centered stories.

  4. Types of people: again, can agree with this, but what about the punks? What about the rebels? What about normal looking people? I’m sure numerous people on here have seen someone who fits into the rebel category burp, yet I never find any stories with them. And heck, depending on geographical location, this can still leave the story dry, especially if people self-consider themselves country folk.

-GustyTraveler

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These clichés are actually the reason I rarely update my story “The Weekend”. I feel it’s just the same damn thing everyone else is writing and I honestly don’t have the patience to conform. Yet, I do not have the energy to come up with some other way to express a kink. After all, that is the sole purpose of the stories here: to express eructophilia. However, I’ve occasionally thought about doing a serious story that actually confronted the moral/psychological aspects of the fetish. If there is desire for this, I may be moved to attempt a breakout from the routines of the forum.

In the meantime, I am a writer (outside the internet) and I stick to my real writing (which is much different than what I’ve written here).

Also, @GustyTraveler, fellow home-schooler here! I feel your frustrations.

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If you ever write a story like that, please let me know! I’d love to read it. :wink:

And awesome! Ha, I was working on a novel a few years back. Probably need to finish it. :thinking:

Yay for another homeschooler! This is just a theory, but i think those who were homeschooled can either write the blandest stories (due to a lack of actual experience and therefore using TV and movies as a reference) or incredibly outlandish (due to an active imagination where screw it, anything goes.)

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I’m glad the analysis could be appreciated.

  1. Friendships are so vital to human well being. I think the trust perspective may be a likely reason for this, but would like to engage in additional study. Thank you for offering that perspective!

  2. The fury is real, lots of love on this shared frustration. As for where to find something I’ve written, the most recent, complete and decent quality piece I’ve done is the short novel Fulfillment I referenced in my previous post. As a headsup it’s long and strange, so no obligation to read into any of it Fulfillment 1.20 - Google Docs

It explores the life of Nava’rix. Throughout her past, she only understood her value from how she could support others, managing a team to thrive in the competition of Fulfillment. When the law strips her of her right to lead an entourage, she’s forced to go through a journey to reevaluate her understanding of her value beyond her ability to support others.

Her journey winds through challenges to her ethics, the vulnerability of connection, and the development of the people life has thrown into her path. It’s through connection with one another that her new allies can overcome totalizing world views in their mutual striving for Fulfillment.

Content warning: Vore (and lots of analysis around morality structures related to it), extreme weight gain, weird over the top reality manipulating belches, a lesbian polycule of protagonists and some very strange stuff.

Back to 2. As far as what the point of writing stories is, it depends. I find that one role it fills is generating content that I like since my tastes are deviant enough from the standard that there isn’t really content just hanging around. I also use it as an opportunity to explore mechanisms for mutual growth and development, that although applied in a fantasy environment are often crossapplicable in reality (like addressing subtle, socially acceptable formats of consent violation.) Since my inner worlds vary so much from the standard, it’s also partially to build a bridge so that I can connect with more people who have little bits of interests in alignment so that we can cultivate more wonderful realities together. I think I could easily write a cliche story, but I don’t think my heart would actually let me. I think there’s some value in executing the task as part of community bonding and generating things for communities that we care about, but I have a strong aversion to it like you do.

  1. I participated in public school, private schools (including charter schools) homeschooling and college at different points in my life. I’m curious if people who had some level of homeschooling or otherwise divergent education have disproportionate displeasure around the school environment meme?

  2. I think that punks and rebels have probably been the fourth most common category I’ve seen depicted in this field after the tomboy, traditionally hyper attractive and traditionally hyper feminine to make the contrast of the eruption feel more taboo. A lot of that has been influenced by the fact that the punk memes are pretty common in the vore community and a lot of belch content I interact with is through that community.

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My advice? Want a good story? Write it. I am not saying this as shade, I am really encouraging people that are unhappy about the current “burp fetish fiction” works, to take a chance and write their own stories.

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  1. No problem! :grin:
  2. I do admit, I’m not sure how I feel about the school/homeschool memes. On one hand, i find the school memes funny but unrelatable (we don’t have a prom cause we’re not part of a co-op, which is a place for homeschoolers run by parents), but on the other hand, if you go online and type homeschooler memes, you’ll find a lot on there about socializing. Frankly, I CAN socialize. Whether or not I want to is due to whoever I’m around. :wink:

And thanks for sharing your story! I’ll check it out soon! :grin:

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Exactly! That’s what I’ve been doing on here, actually. :grin:

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It seems like everyone who has put in their two cents has also done this. ~o,.,.o~

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